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Thoughts of an admin starting to get old ...Friday, July 24. 2009Comments
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Hi,
Man, you seem to be pissed of at something/somebody ![]() Am a regular @ ur blog. the LKSF is an excellent resource. Thanks Rgds
Thanks to you for the compliment:) There are two additional chapters in development ... one is about IPMP and i revived the stuff i wrote about Kerberos.
Truer words were never written
#3
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2009-07-24 16:01
Standards and portability focus on long term cost. This is something modern managers does not want to think about, their focus is on short term gain.
Maintenance and long term support is considered as something, which produces "unexpected" costs. This is as funny, as the non existing warranty for houses, since the contractor building the house will be insolvent, as the buyer moves in. Wir leben in interessanten Zeiten.
Angesichts dessen, das heute schon nach drei Jahren die Server aus dem Rack fliegen, nur weil der Leasingvertrag ausläuft, rücken doch irgendwelche Standards oder gar so Themen wie "Long Term" wohl eher in den Hintergrund. Wenn ich heute einen neuen Server in Betrieb nehme, muss ich schon das Migrationskonzept von morgen planen. Und "morgen" ist eben nun mal alles neu und besser. Da dann sowieso migriert werden muss, kann man "eigentlich" auf Standards pfeifen.
![]() Na ja, die Admins hassen Migrationen und ich behaupte das all das komische Zeug irgendwie einer Arbeitsbeschaffungsmassnahme gleicht. Jeder heute will IT machen, nur gäbe es einfach keine Arbeit wenn die IT voll mit guten Standards und Maschinen die ewig leben ausgestattet wäre. ![]() Gruß Tschokko
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2009-07-24 16:33
I do totally agree on that.
I think that some of the Linux admin / developpers are getting too lazy due to some of the Linux mechanism. One example concerning each Linux admin I have seen trying out Solaris. They log in, type ls, and the use the arrows ... and nothing. They sates Solaris is crap and leave. ... when all they have to do is just change the shell to bash. What a pity (BTW I am and "old" ksh user, loved ksh93, can also understand zsh fans for scripts, but bash is just what they get on Linux and so is suddenly, without any doubt, king of shell ... Strange behaviour) Coming back to the Makefiles, I also loved the stuff that you can compile on Solaris / HP-UX and also Linux without any change like some of the code in the "old" version of the O'Reilly books (like Unix Power Tools). Perhaprs I am getting too old, but I am only 33 ...
#6
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2009-07-24 17:32
"Battle not with monsters lest ye become a monster" (Friedrich Nietzsche)
Linux (on the desktop) battles with Microsoft Windows.... Michiel. (48 years young) P.S. Thanks for your blogging : there IS hope!
Wer nicht fremde Sprachen spricht, weiß nichts von seiner eigenen. (J.W. Goethe)
Then by analogy : that 'Linuxer' who doesn't (want to) know/learn anything else...
I tried to build the latest releases of NagiosGrapher and NetwaysGrapher on FreeBSD recently - and failed.
Simply because those packages are so full of Linux-isms that you have to wade through every single script and file and try to understand what it wants to do. Which is something I simply didn't have time to do. But now I see that there is a reason why the FreeBSD port of nagiosgrapher hasn't been updated for ages.... At work, we've set for a mix of FreeBSD and Solaris, with RHEL being in the if-we-can't-avoid-it corner.
there's no hope, just look at
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6431132 "legacy yacc code cannot be maintained or understood" .. and so it starts, the digital dark age "But what happens some time later," asks Connell, "when we discover that we no longer have the machines, the programs - the hardware, the software - the know-how, to access all that computer-based, digital material?" -- http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/the-digital-dark-age/2005/09/22/1126982184206.html
#9
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2009-07-24 21:41
Is this really new to you? There are mainframe still in use, because it's to risk to migrate the code and you have to ask the developers with a shovel.
BTW: Is it your profession just to search in the bug database or do you have a life ?
I came across this bug on Adam Laventhals blog, see comment #2 from UX-admin @ http://blogs.sun.com/ahl/entry/sun_storage_7410_space_calculator
#9.1.1
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2009-07-27 17:25
Is this new ?
Everything is a VAX ? Everything is a SunOS (
#10
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2009-07-25 00:36
Hallo Jörg,
ich muss dir in dem Punkt mit Mac OS X leider etwas widersprechen, zumindest von meinem persönlichen Standpunkt aus. Ich hatte mich vor einigen Monaten wirklich gefreut als man mich in den Mac Support eines Großkunden gesteckt hatte, mittlerweile frustriert mich das ganze einfach nur. Der Grund dafür ist einfach der, solange du dich mit Mac OS X auf gut ausgebauten großen Straßen befindest, läuft das System, der User weiß zwar nicht genau warum und weshalb, es läuft halt, sobald du dich aber auf kleinen Nebenstraßen befindest, kannst du davon ausgehen das es hinten und vorne scheppert und kracht. Kleines Beispiel, Mac OS X 10.4.11: Vor 4 Wochen klappte die Verbindung über cifs://servername/share/ noch einwandfrei, nun kriegst du den Fehler -36 bei jedem Versuch auf den Share zugreifen zu können. Es wurden weder Updates installiert, noch wurde etwas am Filer geändert. Bisher schlugen alle Supportversuche fehl - die Apple Knowledgebase ist da auch eine ziemlich peinliche Aktion. Desweiteren bin ich der Meinung das die Paketverwaltung unter z.b. Ubuntu/LinuxMint einfach deutlich angenehmer ist als die Aktualisierung von Software auf MacOS X -> Beispiel FireFox! Dennoch lese ich deine Artikel immer wieder gerne, denn so fällt der Blick über den eigenen Tellerrand nicht so schwer und man kriegt auch mal was anderes mit als nur Windows und Linux - Danke dafür! ![]() Grüße aus der Oberpfalz
It appears the Linux people simply dont know how to play nice -
I have had my share of problems as part-time admin with OpenLDAP, where it took me several days to get a version running (we depend heavily on LDAP for one application). Just a few weeks ago, I tried to install Gnu-Smalltalk on Solaris 10, on the playground machine where OpenLDAP got tried out, that means basically all GNU tools are installed there. Make ran fine, but make install simply failed, period. The developers didnt know how to help, either. They are Linux guys. Just two more examples. Grüsse von einem ex-oberpfälzer ![]()
#12
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2009-07-27 10:35
It appears the Linux people simply dont know how to play nice -
I have had my share of problems as part-time admin with OpenLDAP, where it took me several days to get a version running (we depend heavily on LDAP for one application). Just a few weeks ago, I tried to install Gnu-Smalltalk on Solaris 10, on the playground machine where OpenLDAP got tried out, that means basically all GNU tools are installed there. Make ran fine, but make install simply failed, period. The developers didnt know how to help, either. They are Linux guys. Just two more examples. Grüsse von einem ex-oberpfälzer ![]()
#13
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2009-07-27 10:38
Your spelling and grammar are terrible. Maybe some time away from the PC and next to a book would help.
I try my very best as english isn´t my native language ... but you are correct ... especially this text needs a grammar sweep ...
As an elder geek myself I feel your pain
![]() We had a young kid here recently on work experience, knew a lot about windows, had rolled his own install, kept it tight. I got to show him the server room, UNIX, and explain why. I remember installing gnome as a desktop session into GDM on Solaris 8. I ended up pulling bits out of things like dia (visio clone) as the help menu kept killing the program. I kept telling them not to use it, in the end I just went into the code and yanked it. Then they complained it wasn't there any more. Users... I still have a 9Gb drive somewhere that has a complete build environment on it, mount it as /apps and away you go. Used to use it to compile stuff on user workstations. While we remember there is hope.
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2009-07-30 20:57
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