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The Mysql deal in the hindsight
Thursday, January 29. 2009
This article of Matt Assay is a nice answer to all this RedHat versus Sun talk of the recent time because of similar market capitalisation:
Perhaps Sun Microsystems' valuation of MySQL wasn't too far off. Sun acquired the open-source database leader in January 2008 for a whopping $1 billion, a sum that many rational people thought was way too high. Perhaps they were wrong; $1 billion is beginning to look like a bargain. [...] That is phenomenal growth, and it puts MySQL on a fast track to catch up and perhaps surpass Red Hat, in terms of sales.The article is a really interesting read.
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Am einfachsten ließe sich alles refinanzieren, wenn Sun echte Mysql- Appliances mit OpenSol+Mysql+x64+GUI anbieten würde, wo jedermann alle Features von Mysql einfach nutzen könnte
Indeed! I cannot understand why Sun is not offering complete hardware-software packages. A RDBMS-Server or a Java EE Application Server like Fishworks Storage.
Like the Unified Storage boxes, there should be boxes who can be just plugged into the wall and are ready to go. Everything should be optimized and securely configured. With a web gui for the administration by the customer.
I think it would be great if Sun would offer a x4150 with Solaris 10, Glassfish Enterprise v2.1, Sun Java System Web Server as a reverse proxy for glassfish. Everything perfectly configured and tuned. No security or performance headaches. A web gui for minimal configuration.
Additionally the MySQL box described above. And a x4250 with Solaris 10 and PostgreSQL.
Everything bundled with support for the hardware and all software components. This way, a small startup could develop a software and host it by them self, without having to learn tons of administration skills or hiring full-time developers.
It still would be easier and still cheaper to buy such an appliance - even with the support contracts added.
At the moment, one has to buy every product separately and to configure the software on ones own.
Why are you offering this excellent Unified Storage Product, but not somethin similar in the Application Server and Database Server area?
BTW, I am still sad that you did not put this 1B$ into your PostgreSQL department and into PostgreSQL marketing. PostgreSQL seems to match your hardware philosophy much, much more: it scales vertically up to 8 or evene 16 cores, whereas MySQL scales only up to 1 or 2 cores (with more than two cores the performance degrades rapidly with a counting number of concurrent requests, especially with more than 100 requests per second ). Since Sun is promoting multi-thread architectures so heavily, PostgreSQL does seem to be a far better match for Sun Servers. And no, not every DB-Problem can be sharded!
But I understand the marketing thoughts regarding the MySQL momentum and the accounting numbers of the article, of course.
Like the Unified Storage boxes, there should be boxes who can be just plugged into the wall and are ready to go. Everything should be optimized and securely configured. With a web gui for the administration by the customer.
I think it would be great if Sun would offer a x4150 with Solaris 10, Glassfish Enterprise v2.1, Sun Java System Web Server as a reverse proxy for glassfish. Everything perfectly configured and tuned. No security or performance headaches. A web gui for minimal configuration.
Additionally the MySQL box described above. And a x4250 with Solaris 10 and PostgreSQL.
Everything bundled with support for the hardware and all software components. This way, a small startup could develop a software and host it by them self, without having to learn tons of administration skills or hiring full-time developers.
It still would be easier and still cheaper to buy such an appliance - even with the support contracts added.
At the moment, one has to buy every product separately and to configure the software on ones own.
Why are you offering this excellent Unified Storage Product, but not somethin similar in the Application Server and Database Server area?
BTW, I am still sad that you did not put this 1B$ into your PostgreSQL department and into PostgreSQL marketing. PostgreSQL seems to match your hardware philosophy much, much more: it scales vertically up to 8 or evene 16 cores, whereas MySQL scales only up to 1 or 2 cores (with more than two cores the performance degrades rapidly with a counting number of concurrent requests, especially with more than 100 requests per second ). Since Sun is promoting multi-thread architectures so heavily, PostgreSQL does seem to be a far better match for Sun Servers. And no, not every DB-Problem can be sharded!
But I understand the marketing thoughts regarding the MySQL momentum and the accounting numbers of the article, of course.
I forgot:
The most important part would be a dtrace-GUI, of course! If you would complete the storage server products from the firshworks product line with fishworks database severs and fishworks java application servers (Unified Database, Unified Application Serving), that would be mindboggingling awesome!!! If you could offer that to a price maybe twice of the mere hardware price for the boxes, than it would be really cheap for your customers - compared to hiring lots of tech staff.
Just with the Unified Storage products, there would be nothing really new: all technologies are already available from Sun. But put together with a nice web gui, it would be incredibly more useful for your customers with limited tech staff.
Additionally, there could be a premium line with the M-Series or Rock in a few months: Postgresql on top of Solaris 10 on a M3000 with a disk array and a fishworks gui including dtrace and Glassfish with Sun Java System Web Server as a reverse proxy and Solaris 10 on a M-3000 (or Rock) server and a fishworks web gui including dtrace for customers, who wish to have extreme reliability.
This would make your products so much easier to use! And the fishworks team cannot have that much trouble to extend the gui including the dtrace gui to RDBMSs and Java Application Servers.
Did I mention that it would be super crazy awesome???
The most important part would be a dtrace-GUI, of course! If you would complete the storage server products from the firshworks product line with fishworks database severs and fishworks java application servers (Unified Database, Unified Application Serving), that would be mindboggingling awesome!!! If you could offer that to a price maybe twice of the mere hardware price for the boxes, than it would be really cheap for your customers - compared to hiring lots of tech staff.
Just with the Unified Storage products, there would be nothing really new: all technologies are already available from Sun. But put together with a nice web gui, it would be incredibly more useful for your customers with limited tech staff.
Additionally, there could be a premium line with the M-Series or Rock in a few months: Postgresql on top of Solaris 10 on a M3000 with a disk array and a fishworks gui including dtrace and Glassfish with Sun Java System Web Server as a reverse proxy and Solaris 10 on a M-3000 (or Rock) server and a fishworks web gui including dtrace for customers, who wish to have extreme reliability.
This would make your products so much easier to use! And the fishworks team cannot have that much trouble to extend the gui including the dtrace gui to RDBMSs and Java Application Servers.
Did I mention that it would be super crazy awesome???
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